Strong convictions are good for leaders, but when do strong convictions turn into downright stubborness?

Strong convictions are good for leaders, but when do strong convictions turn into downright stubborness?

I believe that is when something is proven completely wrong and hurtful, but they still continue to insist they are right.

The issue with Bush is that his policies are not solving our problems, he will not try something different and the BUCK NEVER STOPS on his desk!

Thank you for the attibution.  I agree with you about Truman.  There are many things I did not like about him, but I do admire him for being a strong leader.  As a Truman Democrat, you are one of the remaining few.  A shame you could not sway more to your side of the party.

The issue with Bush is that his policies are not solving our problems, he will not try something different and the BUCK NEVER STOPS on his desk!

Gene, all I ask is that you PROVE it. Yes, I've seen your other threads, but you still haven't really proved anything.

Thank you for the attibution. I agree with you about Truman. There are many things I did not like about him, but I do admire him for being a strong leader. As a Truman Democrat, you are one of the remaining few. A shame you could not sway more to your side of the party.

Well, being a Truman Democrat doesn't really involve what your beliefs are, it involves sticking by them. But I guess that does knock more than a few out.

The best is when both sides try to use the "that's not what the people want!" argument. Watching the same-sex marriage debate in Canada...so many loud majorities...so many silent majorities...so many morons...so much proof that Jason Kenney has to be the dumbest politician in Canada...

njforever

Proof

By placing the next generation into debt so we can give people that need nothing more money.

By not protecting the borders on this country so terrorists can walk in

By not insuring the tarde policies enable American companies and workers to get a fair shake.

By starting a war with a country that did not pose any danger to the U S

By trying to solve the funding shortfall in Social Secuuity by taking Trillions more from the system for individual accounts.

Well, being a Truman Democrat doesn't really involve what your beliefs are, it involves sticking by them. But I guess that does knock more than a few out.

Start a new Wing.  I dare say we dont agree on all things, but hold true to the beliefs and ban polling as an indication of what to do next.  That would get you and your fellow minded democrats the next Presidential elections.  The current front runners are like water when it comes for standing up for their beleifs.  A shame really.  I would like to see a 3 part government again.  Not a President, lackeys and then the judiciary.

Reply By: COL GenePosted: Sunday, April 10, 2005 njforever Proof

He said proof, not editorials.  You have lost all sight of the truth, and just have hate left.  Those are your OPINIONS as none are facts.  And Proof requires FACTS not opinions.

Start a new Wing. I dare say we dont agree on all things, but hold true to the beliefs and ban polling as an indication of what to do next. That would get you and your fellow minded democrats the next Presidential elections. The current front runners are like water when it comes for standing up for their beleifs. A shame really. I would like to see a 3 part government again. Not a President, lackeys and then the judiciary.

It would be nice if we got a stronger candidate in 2008. I've already said on another thread that I'm considering supporting the Libertarians if I cannot stomach the Democratic candidate.

Good article, If the old time democrats were still around, fdr, truman, jfk I would still be a democrat and proud of that fact.

Dr Guy

If you believe the debt, loss of jobs and industries and unprotected borders are not facts, you do not know what the word means. Only a fool would argue these things will benefit America! Tell me the debt has not increased under Bush or the the trade deficit has not increased or that millions of people have come across our border since 9/11.

If you believe the debt, loss of jobs and industries and unprotected borders are not facts, you do not know what the word means.

They would be facts if true, yet they are just your rantings and that of the left with no basis in facts.  you still have yet to provide FACTS.  You are bereft of them.

It would be nice if we got a stronger candidate in 2008. I've already said on another thread that I'm considering supporting the Libertarians if I cannot stomach the Democratic candidate.

I will join you if the democrats shirk their duty once again.

Facts

In 2001 the national debt was 5.7 Trillion. Today it is 7.7 Trillion.

The trade deficit in 2001 was about 400 billion, in 2004 it was over 620 billion

Unemployment rate in 2001 was 3.9% it is now 5.2%

In 2000 we had a 125 Billion annual surplus under the Unified Budget (adding ss and medicare surpluses). Today we are at 425 Billion annual deficit under the Unified Budget.

Underemployment( workers without living wage jobs) rate was 6.9% in 2001 and is now 9.3%

Five facts. No BS just facts. All worse since Bush became President!